The Charlie Brown Syndrome (was RE: Open Letter To This List)

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At 08:46 AM 11/6/97 -0700, Bro Clifton wrote:

>I was asked this question by a teen in a Sunday School class. We are
>supposed to forgive (up to 490 times per day per person per offense - or
>in practical terms we are to always forgive), but are we supposed to
>"allow others to do us wrong". The example she gave was that she told a
>"friend" a secret and the friend spilled the beans. Now she has forgiven
>her but she wondered about trusting her again. My response was to slowly
>allow the girl to work up the trust again, but dont just ignorantly
>treat the situation like nothing happened.

First of all.... where in the bible does it say "Thou shalt not have a
brain after ye are endued with power from on High."  Anotherwords, some
people just automatically enter an *auto-pilot cruise control* mode where
they just become complete idiots and don't engage the brain noodle once
they've received the Holy Ghost.  Common sense goes out the window, they
become a doormat and they just let people walk all over them.  God don't
make anybody *stupid* once they've got the Holy Ghost.  If anything, he's
given then a *gift* whereby they can use that noodle of theirs in a more
efficient *spiritual* manner in that they see things from a spiritual 
perspective (which was previously hid).

The previous post deals with several points:  1) judging  2) wisdom
3) forgiveness  4) repentence and maybe more.

Wellllllllllll..... there's a difference between *judging* and *judging*.

Two different kinds of judging.

 1) forming an opinion (we have the mind of Christ, we *judge* all things.
         daily we form opinions about this- and that- ... a never ending
         routine.  This is what a *jury* typically decides.  A jury's 
         *judgement* is either innocent or guilty based on evidence.)

 2) pass condemnation upon something (like God's condemnation, or the 
         condemnation of a criminal to jail, etc.  This is what a *judge*
         does in his kind of *judgement*.)

Forgiveness, Repentance, and Wisdom.....

  Forgiveness *can't* be consumated until *repentence* has been made.  
  If they continue to trespass, then they've not repented of the matter.
  Charlie Brown is an idiot to even *think* that Lucy won't pull the ball
  away even though she says "Oh... Chaaaaaaaarliiiiiiiiie Brooooooooooown".

  This is where *wisdom* kicks in and weighs the *past* events against 
  repentence history and any evidence of current repentence.  If gen-u-ine
  repentence can be somehow measured and found to be *factual* rather than
  symbolic, then Charlie Brown should kick the ball.

  Before, Charlie Brown should get over the bitterness of not being able to
  kick the ball so that he's still right with God.  Then when Lucy, is humble
  enough to repent and shows fruit of such, he can forgive Lucy's actions to
  Lucy because he's already done such with God.  He's already talked to God
  and isn't consumed with anger anymore because *he's* such a bonehead in 
  even thinking that Lucy would keep the ball on the ground as well as still
  being so stubborn that he's mad as h-e-doubletoothpicks at Lucy because she
  did that same thing one more time.

  If he's mostly angry, it should be directed at himself because *Lucy* didn't
  put a gun to his head to make him try and kick the ball.  She played the 
  temptress and caught her prey successfully.

Bro Tyler
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Bro Tyler Nally <tnally@iquest.net> <tgnally@prairienet.org>

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