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BAdams7117@aol.com (BAdams7117@aol.com)
Mon, 17 Nov 1997 13:15:35 -0500 (EST)


dear brother randy.....i have read brother tylers letter to you and his
listing of the scriptures are very acurate as well as his comments on this
issue.....Dr. Marx has also added some light in his letter to
you....especially when he stated that Joseph had "nothing" to do with the
actual birth of our Savior.
     The additional truth also here is that Mary also had "nothing" in a
creative nature to do with the birth of our Savior.  Allow me to explain my
statement;
     
John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the
sons of God, [even] to them that believe on his name: 
John 1:13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of
the will of man, but of God. 
John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his
glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father) full of grace and
truth. 

    As you can see here in verse 13 the pattern of birth is being
established....that is the spiritual birth, that birth being of God, not of
blood nor of will of the flesh nor mans will.   Then verse 14 tells that the
WORD "was made flesh" and dwelt among us.  Verse 1 of this chapter states
that .....In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the
Word was God.   John1:1.
Clearly this establishes the fact that the WORD spoken of in verse 14 is GOD.
    
     
     The "birth" that was in human form that occured in Bethlehem was a
"natural" human birth of a "spiritual" child.  The vessel of the "WORD that
was made flesh"
was "human" and the child that was inside her womb was "spiritually made"
according to verse 14.  God made the WORD become flesh and conceived it by
the Holy Spirit and then "placed" the child IN the womb of His chosen vessel.
That manifestation was authored by God and is the true "miracle" of Jesus
birth in 
"human form".  Remember He laid His glory down to be "born" on this earth.
This also testifies to His "supernatural" ability to come to us as God...yet
in "human form".   Matthew 1:23....his name shall be called Immanuel (meaning
God with us)
Jesus had already been born "spiritually".....He was the only "begotten" of
the Father.  (Thats another study ---begotten)
     
     Anyway I hope you can see that;  the species  "man"....the male
providing sperm and the female providing egg (ie the natural human birth
process of conception) had NOTHING to do with the birth of JESUS on this
earth.
     Mary was the vessel chosen by God to "bear" his begotten son that had
been concieved by the Holy Ghost and was placed in her womb by the hand of
God.
God chose this method to "deliver" His promise to His people Isreal. 
       He spoke in Matthew 1:20-21 But while he thought on these things,
behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph,
thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which
is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.  And she shall bring forth a son,
and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their
sins. 
 
      One more point beofre i go....this process also makes sense if you have
a little medical understanding of the birth process in humans....the blood of
the mother comes thru the umbillical cord to "feed" and nurish the baby.  But
it never touches the child.....it is surrounded by the placenta (sac) and has
its own blood supply intact from conception.  The mother and father both
provide the genetic code that determines the babys make up and blood type.
  JESUS being concieved from a single "Divine" source had in His "human form"
 a blood type that was heavenly  in origin and not of "human" making.  If
this was not the case His blood would have been mixed with that of a human
"tainted" and therefore considered "born into sin"
The perfect sacrifice could not take place because the blood of Christ to be
spilled out for us on Calvary had to be Holy and without sin.  He was called
the Lamb without blemish....the lamb that would take away the sins of the
world.  Only a perfect lamb could do that...one free from any exposure to
sin.  The BLOOD of Jesus gains its POWER from its pureness in never being
exposed to sin.  Jesus never was born INTO sin as we all have been.

    There are other scriptures that reveal these truths and we can go more
into detail privately if you wish to....also I welcome any and all inquiries
to my conclusions as long as they are in the interest of finding the truth of
Gods WORD.

In the arms of our Savior......JESUS
bro bruce