>>But Bro. Richard, didn't the salesman tell you how wonderfully it handled on snow and ice? It was an investment in *SAFETY*.<< well, if you really want safety............ i would suggest a Benz. you owe it to yourself!!! how about the new M-class? or maybe a SE 600? Hardly Sincere, Eric De Leon pianoguy80@juno.com pianoguy81@aol.com